So, I was wondering if anyone around here would be interested at all in having a place to spar, build characters etc. I don't really know if anyone here is really into it at all so I just thought i'd ask.

C'mon, it might even be fun

It gets old really quickly. You rise to the top of it all, and suddenly you get very bored, very quickly. You end up writing 4 pages in Century Gothic 8pt. only to do it again the very next day. It consumes your time, and your life. That doesn't even begin to explain what happens when something like that begins to happen. Believe me...I'd know better than anyone else you'll talk to.

He's right, if anyone knows what its like, its definately Falcon.

Plus, we had it back before the forum died, and it got NO posts. Well...it had some at the beginning, but no one wrote anything in it for a long ass time.

Long sparring replies = sucks. Especially when you're just trying to have fun. Most people won't have time writing something uberly detailed, and if they do, it's only once in a day, not continous. Eventually, interest dies down and that's it.

So unless there is another creative way to spar, i don't think it's reasonable to have sparring stuff. While long sparring replies = sucktitude, spam sparring replies are just a big

*powers up and throws a 10x Kamehameha wave at jay*

That means I agree... >_>

There are other ways. It's not about length, it never has been when you're doing that. I've tried to stress to alot of people that point. I hated when everyone wanted to do exactly what I was doing. It's a form of creative expression. If you can get your point across in a paragraph, more power to you. People need to focus on what they think is good, not on what others think is nice.

A sparring forum? It'd be cool, but I doubt you'd have a dedicated fan-base for it. If you could find one, I'd love to see it and would probably even support it. Not that my support matters on anything.

Hell I'd even type up every version of sparring there is for all your happy sparrers. I loved sparring, it was something that I took great pride and joy from. And if you find some way to pull it off, let me know. But I seriously doubt that you could here, get support for it though, prove me wrong. I'd love for you to do that. After all, anything good in life is worth fighting for.

I'd suggest seeing how these Mafia games etc. in GI develop; if they're popular enough and end up working well, maybe there could be room for some kind of Role Play forum again sometime in the future, in which the Mafia-type games, Sparring, and other things could be included.

I wouldn't jump to create one while the risk is still high that it'd fail and be a sad, dead forum again, but I wouldn't rule it out either.

It's not really a question of "if" a sparring forum fails. It's more a matter of when. You have to obtain a high fan-base and something to catch the people who are participating. Events, Rivalries, Clans, etc. All of them do this well. But the real kicker is the people themselves. People only want to put that much effort into something if it's worth it on both ends, and not just on one. If one person isn't happy, the other won't be. Sparring is so damned complex that it's hard to explain in that regard, but it's been done well in many places. Even here once or twice.

I don't think there will be a sparring forum here anytime soon by the sound of these replies.

So Falcon, you said that you were into it before, do you know of any forums dedicated to sparring? Any help would be great

So you wish to dabble in the ancient arts do you? What exactly are you looking for in your sparring experience? Long-detailed assaults of stunning imagination? Or simple exchanges between friends and enemies alike? I can help you find one sure, but not without knowing what you want out of it first...

Edit: In regards to it never happening. Maybe you could ask for a sub-forum for it put under creative works or something? It's not a big enough activity to merit an entire forum all to it's lonesome. Even though those cocky arrogant sparrers always want one to themselves..especially that bastard Falcon.

I'm just looking for a bit of fun, mixed with atleast a trace of seriousness. Spars of medium size and of a medium amount of detail. Nothing too serious but nothing to "old school". EG: MT going x10 and shooting jay with Kamehameha wave.

The problem with that is, people DID post like you did. Then that was the ONLY accepted way of sparring. Although you're right, we need a fanbase for sparring, but I just don't see that fanbase growing anytime soon. I like sparring as well, but I'm not going to sit there and type a half of a paragraph. My example of sparring, for me:

"Jayrok enters into the compound*

"So, anyone here want to challenge me?"

*Jayrok then flies up and powers up. Throws a hundred kamehamehas around to show off. His powers grows as his anger rises. Anticipating his challenger, his violent tendencies begin to show.*

OOC: That's the MOST I'll probably post like. Now when you put that in with a long way of describing, that post looks really really bland.

But you're right, it does need a fanbase, but i don't think the fanbase will grow anytime soon. Most if not all the old school sparrers here don't do it anymore.

Sub forum wouldn't hurt, but...again, it's not a matter of IF, it's a matter of when.

In all honesty I'm still sparring at a board a friend told me about. I actually have to finish up my spell-sheets for an upcoming tournament. Personally I love Sparring, the creative expression that can take place in it is so wonderful, and a great experience for anyone trying to improve their creative writing skills. I'd love to see it back here, but at the same time I know that the Center currently lacks the man-power to put up a good sparring forum all it's own. If they do decide to do it, I'd hope they'd ask for my help with some of it, but I doubt that a forum like that would happen anyway.

I remember every aspect of Sparring that's come to be at this place. It's evolutions, it's battle and rant between old and new "skool" sparring. It's been a rich history, and though I do hate to see something so cultured to the people of the Center fall away, perhaps that's what's best, at least for now, hmm?

The sub-forum idea is a good one, but I still don't see this happening. Its not that I don't want it to, but I know from experience that it won't last. I've seen two boards with thriving sparring communities go dead, even after one tried a major overhaul. Falc knows exactly where i'm talking about, too.

Now I know they don't all fail, but its a rare occasion when they don't. Right now I don't see a need for one.

Momentum was doomed the second it started, I warned them all it stifiled creativity but noooooo.

It was the equivalent of bumping old topics during the last version of the Center. Even though they said "Go ahead, you can do it," it was still frowned on. Spars pretty much needed to be the long, descriptive juggernauts that took so long to write that participants lost interest, and anyone who might've wanted to try it didn't bother. It wasn't active during the last version or two of the Center wasn't active at the Vertex, so there's no point in trying it again.

Falcon seems to be the definative authority on this (honestly, I'm not patronizing you), but still, I don't see why a person couldn't encourage it in Creative Works. At least one person is interested in it, maybe if he were to invite a few friends, it might start to take off and spawn an entire forum. At the very least it would give CW abit more traffic, no?

I dunno, just a suggestion.

Actually I've had a talk with MT. I'm going to put a smaller scale of an RPG I had created in CW. If enough people participate, etc, it might give those who support a sparring forum more of an edge. If not, it will prove the established points. Honestly, I'm not certian of what the outcome will be. But I will say this much, if any of you know of my Dimension Zero RPG, then you'll know and hopefully love what I have in store for you.

Looks like the ball is rolling now

Cheers Falcon.

*pokes Icarus* So like, go sign up to participate and stuff.

Mebbe if it was sparring in reality.

You clearly don't grasp that it's a fantasy artform of creative writing and outwitting your opponent. It has NOTHING to do with sparring in reality. Think D&D, on a message board, with rather loose rules.

Or, as I'm told, something that resembles what we say in the chat sometimes with the throwing of objects and casting of spells. Its lazy, but I guess its still sparring.

For the record, one of noobs is interested in the sparring. There were so many people in the beginning, it didn't seem like such a good idea to join, but since the 'big people' are kind of backing off, other people who were of the same mind that I was will be willing to join. Sort of like a new generation thing.

If the sparring goes through.. How about RP's?

There's a signup for Falcon's RPG in Creative Works.